Category Archives: Photography

Alister Benn Out of Darkness



Jack and John are honored to welcome Alister Benn to the show.  Alister is regarded as one of the leaders in the landscape photography genre with his expressive and introspective work.  He comes to us today to talk about his new printed book, Out of Darkness. Here is how Alister describes the genesis of the book: “In January 2017 I travelled to one of the emptiest places on earth; The Gobi Desert in northern China. There, I underwent a complete creative epiphany, and over the following 6 expeditions into that region, began to rewrite the story of my life and gain understanding and perspective on my mental health. It is no understatement to say that my creativity has been the gateway to a more balanced and accepting life.

Alisters Bio:

Scottish born Alister Benn is an award winning Landscape Photographer and founder of Expressive Photography Limited.

His passion for individual creativity and expression make him an enthusiastic instructor and someone who wants everyone to have the confidence to express their own unique voice.

“It is unfortunate that in these days of popularity and social media, that many of us have lost the pure basic reason why we started making landscape photographs in the first place – to be outside, engaging with nature.”

Alister is a strong advocate of engaging with the landscape in an organic way, unrestrained by conventions, rules or the pressure of external validation.

Expressive Photography Website:  https://expressive.photography

The We Talk Photo podcast is dedicated to being an entertaining, informative and lighthearted discussion about a wide range of photographic topics centered around landscape and nature photography.  Hosted by Jack Graham and John Pedersen, long time industry professionals, they will bring you in to their conversations about gear, recent trends, insightful interviews with industry leaders as well as entertaining stories from their collective experience in the photography business.


Michael Gordon in Lenswork



John and Jack welcome back Michael Gordon to the program to talk about his most recent accomplishment, having a collection of images, titled Denizens, featured in Lenswork Magazine.  Lenswork is one of the premier magazines devoted to photography and it’s quite an honor to be published within.  During this discussion they also touch on the concepts of portfolios and the benefits of constructive criticisms.

Michael Gordon in Lenswork Magazine

Lenswork Magazine: https://www.lenswork.com/

Michael E. Gordon is an award-winning fine art landscape photographer best known for his black and white impressions of California’s deserts which, said Broughton Quarterly, portrays “stunning ethereal beauty from terrain where others see only a bleak landscape.” A lifelong student of nature and wilderness, Michael’s intimate relationship with the natural world yields quiet images of depth and discovery.

Michaels Website:  https://www.michael-gordon.com

The We Talk Photo podcast is dedicated to being an entertaining, informative and lighthearted discussion about a wide range of photographic topics centered around landscape and nature photography.  Hosted by Jack Graham and John Pedersen, long time industry professionals, they will bring you in to their conversations about gear, recent trends, insightful interviews with industry leaders as well as entertaining stories from their collective experience in the photography business.


Discussion with Cole Thompson



Jack and John welcome back to the show master BW photographer, Cole Thompson.  In this episode we discuss a variety of topics including portfolios and the concept of developing your personal vision.  We were fortunate enough to catch Cole between workshops and he had time to bring his fantastic perspective to the show!

Excerpt from Coles Bio:

I am often asked, “Why black and white?” I think it’s because I grew up in a black-and-white world. Television, movies and the news were all in black and white. My heroes were in black and white and even the nation was segregated into black and white. My images are an extension of the world in which I grew up.

For me color records the image, but black and white captures the feelings that lie beneath the surface.

Coles Website:  https://colethompsonphotography.com

The We Talk Photo podcast is dedicated to being an entertaining, informative and lighthearted discussion about a wide range of photographic topics centered around landscape and nature photography.  Hosted by Jack Graham and John Pedersen, long time industry professionals, they will bring you in to their conversations about gear, recent trends, insightful interviews with industry leaders as well as entertaining stories from their collective experience in the photography business.


HD Aluminum Prints



Jack and John both love printing their photographs and for those who have seen them, nothing quite beats printing a photograph on metal.  There are a lot of good companies in the market making metal prints, but on todays show, we talk with a photo printing shop that is used by several of the best PNW photographers and we are excited to join the list of supporters of their incredible quality, craftsmanship and customer service.  Derek from HD Aluminum Prints, located in Vancouver WA, joins us on the program today to talk about their process and offerings and how their printing techniques do not require an overcoat finish to protect the photograph.

Website:  https://www.hdaluminumprints.com/home

New customers can receive a 25% discount by signing up with them.

Inside the HD Aluminum Prints shop


Interview with Joe McNally



Jack and John are overjoyed to welcome the world famous Joe McNally to the podcast, along with Bill Fortney.  Joe is one of the finest photographers and an amazingly outgoing, humorous and enjoyable people and his excitement for life is infectious.  Listen in as Jack and John have a casual conversation about Joes amazing career, his outlook on photography and several funny stories from his time in the field.

Podcast interview with Joe McNally

Joe McNally is an internationally acclaimed, award-winning photographer whose prolific career includes assignments in nearly 70 countries.  McNally is known world-wide as not only one of the top, technically excellent photographers of his generation, but his charming demeanor, confidence and humor make him a sought-after choice from CEO’s to celebrities to commercial and magazine clients alike.  He is among the rare breed of photographer who has bridged the world between photojournalism and advertising.

Joes Website: https://joemcnally.com/

Joes  Portfolio: https://portfolio.joemcnally.com/index

Joes YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/joemcnallyphoto/videos

The We Talk Photo podcast is dedicated to being an entertaining, informative and lighthearted discussion about a wide range of photographic topics centered around landscape and nature photography.  Hosted by Jack Graham and John Pedersen, long time industry professionals, they will bring you in to their conversations about gear, recent trends, insightful interviews with industry leaders as well as entertaining stories from their collective experience in the photography business.


Holiday Gift Guide



Jack and John discuss some of their favorite gifts for the photographer, either for others to give you or for you to give yourself :-). We want to wish you and yours the happiest of holiday seasons and look forward to being with you in the New Year.

Link to Jacks Gift Guide 

Jack graham and john pedersen in the forest

The We Talk Photo podcast is dedicated to being an entertaining, informative and lighthearted discussion about a wide range of photographic topics centered around landscape and nature photography.  Hosted by Jack Graham and John Pedersen, long time industry professionals, they will bring you in to their conversations about gear, recent trends, insightful interviews with industry leaders as well as entertaining stories from their collective experience in the photography business.


Tetons Workshop Recap



Jack and John just returned from their final workshop of 2022 in bison walking through the snowGrand Teton National Park.  Listen in as they talk about the experience, along with one of the clients on the workshop, and what a fantastic time was had by all.

Jacks Image Gallery: https://jackgraham.photoshelter.com/index/G0000rJjNZNhBz84

Johns Image Gallery: https://www.johnpedersenphotos.com/Workshop-Images/Tetons-Winter-2022/n-Q68JKt/

The We Talk Photo podcast is dedicated to being an entertaining, informative and lighthearted discussion about a wide range of photographic topics centered around landscape and nature photography.  Hosted by Jack Graham and John Pedersen, long time industry professionals, they will bring you in to their conversations about gear, recent trends, insightful interviews with industry leaders as well as entertaining stories from their collective experience in the photography business.


Interview with Chuck Kimmerle



A portrait of photographer chuck kimkerleJack and John are pleased to welcome Chuck Kimmerle to our discussion.  Chuck is an amazing fine art black and white photographer with a unique and distinctive style honed from many years as a staff photographer for news papers.  Chuck recently transplanted to the Eastern Sierra area of California and is just starting to explore his new environment looking for unique and expressive images.

From Chucks Bio:A photograph by Chuck Kimmerle

I am a fine art photographer working primarily in black and white. My work does not always fit within the usual categories. The landscape moniker, while the most accurate, evokes unfair and incorrect expectations of mountain panoramas at sunset or vistas with foregrounds of colorful flowers. Neither occupy much space in my collection. Instead, my photographs are stark, simple, quiet, personal, and often contain artificial objects. They are unique.

I now devote myself full-time to photographing the landscape in my unique, personal style. I prefer to photograph in areas devoid of obvious grandeur or explicit beauty, even if surrounded by such splendor. These are the areas I often think of as the “in betweens.” I prefer prairies to mountains, and the high desert to the slot canyons. I am most at comfortable, and at my most creative, in areas which are reticent, quiet, and open. The areas in between.

Chucks  Website: https://www.chuckkimmerle.com

Lone Boat photograph by Chuck Kimmerle

The We Talk Photo podcast is dedicated to being an entertaining, informative and lighthearted discussion about a wide range of photographic topics centered around landscape and nature photography.  Hosted by Jack Graham and John Pedersen, long time industry professionals, they will bring you in to their conversations about gear, recent trends, insightful interviews with industry leaders as well as entertaining stories from their collective experience in the photography business.


Alister Benn Out of Darkness



Jack and John are honored to welcome Alister Benn to the show.  Alister is regarded as one of the leaders in the landscape photography genre with his expressive and introspective work.  He comes to us today to talk about his new printed book, Out of Darkness. Here is how Alister describes the genesis of the book: “In January 2017 I travelled to one of the emptiest places on earth; The Gobi Desert in northern China. There, I underwent a complete creative epiphany, and over the following 6 expeditions into that region, began to rewrite the story of my life and gain understanding and perspective on my mental health. It is no understatement to say that my creativity has been the gateway to a more balanced and accepting life.“

Alisters Bio:

Scottish born Alister Benn is an award winning Landscape Photographer and founder of Expressive Photography Limited.

His passion for individual creativity and expression make him an enthusiastic instructor and someone who wants everyone to have the confidence to express their own unique voice.

“It is unfortunate that in these days of popularity and social media, that many of us have lost the pure basic reason why we started making landscape photographs in the first place – to be outside, engaging with nature.”

Alister is a strong advocate of engaging with the landscape in an organic way, unrestrained by conventions, rules or the pressure of external validation.

Images of Alister Benn book Out of Darkness

Preorder his book here:  https://expressive.photography/out-of-darkness-home/

Alisters Website:  https://alisterbenn.com

Expressive Photography Website:  https://expressive.photography

Outofdarkness Website:  https://outofdarkness.co.uk

The We Talk Photo podcast is dedicated to being an entertaining, informative and lighthearted discussion about a wide range of photographic topics centered around landscape and nature photography.  Hosted by Jack Graham and John Pedersen, long time industry professionals, they will bring you in to their conversations about gear, recent trends, insightful interviews with industry leaders as well as entertaining stories from their collective experience in the photography business.


Guy Tal Interior Landscape



Jack & John welcome one of the most exciting and insightful creators, artist, photographer and writers today, Guy Tal.  Guy has produced an incredibly amazing body of work, both visually and written about photography and life.  Guy is one of the most vivid and introspective thinkers who has an innate ability to transfer his thoughts to the photograph or written page.

Guy is joining us today to talk about his latest book, called The Interior Landscape. Building on the legacy of his previous best-selling books More Than a Rock and Another Day Not Wasted, as well as his work as a regular contributor to LensWork and On Landscape magazines, The Interior Landscape is a collection of more than 60 brief essays, packaged in a beautiful hardcover format and illustrated throughout with Guy’s stunning photography.

Organized into four parts, Guy discusses:

Creativity and expression as the most significant aspects of making art

The controversial and tenuous relationship between photography (by design a medium for objective representation) and art (by definition the subjective expressions of the imagination of artists)

How he has formed a relationship with, and found meaning in, the natural landscape, and how he expresses these meanings in his photographs

Lessons learned from more than three decades of practicing expressive landscape photography

The Interior Landscape is for anyone interested in, as the title suggests, turning inward to explore creativity, art, expression, and the landscape. It is sure to illuminate, educate, and inspire you on your photographic journey.

Visit Guys Website – www.guytal.com

To order Guys new book, you can get the ebook edition from Rocky Nook or Amazon. If you want an autographed printed version, visit Guys site when the hardcover is available later this year.

The Interior Landscape e-book

            On Rocky Nook: HERE

            On Amazon: HERE

The We Talk Photo podcast is dedicated to being an entertaining, informative and lighthearted discussion about a wide range of photographic topics centered around landscape and nature photography.  Hosted by Jack Graham and John Pedersen, long time industry professionals, they will bring you in to their conversations about gear, recent trends, insightful interviews with industry leaders as well as entertaining stories from their collective experience in the photography business.